Tuesday, October 08, 2013

"Deliberately sabotaging America's economy..."

What was that line that Mr. Kristof used?   About politicians threatening default, using a "potential catastrophe as a source of bargaining power in a game of extortion: We don’t want anything to happen to this fine American economy as we approach the debt limit, so you’d better meet our demand." That whole column, of course, was a plea for us to understand that this kind of tactic (known to normal people as "negotiation") is some beyond-the-pale behavior indulged in by Republicans and Republicans only.  Democrats would never play games with the debt limit.

So, here's a Senatorial example of "play[ing] politics with the debt limit":
Mr. President, I rise today to talk about America’s debt problem.  The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure...

Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that "the buck stops here." Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.  I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.
Which Senator was that who was "engaged in deliberately sabotaging America’s economy and damaging our national security"?

Senator Barack Obama, 3/16/2006.  He was arguing against raising the debt limit, and he was joined in voting against that raise of the limit by every single Democratic Senator.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

The dumbest thing I expect to see today is what I just read. The debt ceiling was going to be raised, as the Republicans had the votes and the vote against was symbolic. Check into the history of these votes and you will see the pattern of the party in power voting to raise it and the party in the minority voting symbolically against it.

You think you are so clever with your "gotcha" quote, but you are ignoring context and history because either you are ignorant of it, or it simply doesn't fit your narrative. Do you stand behind your words, or do you delete them?

9:28 PM  
Blogger Lyford said...

If you want a response, it's a good idea to leave a name. I get a lot of spam signed anonymous, and rarely look at anonymous responses. I happened to see this one, and it doesn't look like spam, so...

Was Barack Obama lying in 2006 when he said that "America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership"?

And if the vote then was just "symbolic" because the debt ceiling got raised anyway, how much do you want to bet that it gets raised again this year? If it doesn't, and the country actually goes into default (which it won't, because there's plenty of money to service the debt, and will continue to be) then come back and talk about symbolic gestures vs. economic "terrorism". Until that happens, it's just more noise.

9:43 PM  

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